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There are at least 73 results for Philip Roe in the forum.


Philip Roe    (2013-10-03 21:01:42)
Tablebases and no-engines tournaments

Bogoljub,

When you enter the tournament by clicking on the waiting list, you are told that "chess engines, databases and opening books are strictly forbidden". I guess the idea is to reproduce OTB conditions as closely as possible.


Philip Roe    (2013-06-11 14:08:13)
Vacation: change for 3 days minimum?

There are players, who I could name, who always run their clocks very low and use vacation a day or two at a time to avoid loss. I have absolutely no idea why they do that. They gain no advantage, and in fact frequently lose on time. In consequence they are greatly underrated. Paired against one of them, you may in fact lose (against a low-rated player) or gain an unsatisfying forfeit. This behavior is legitimate under the current rules but extremely irritating.

It is true that all rules can be abused, but it is not unreasonable to set up rules so that abuse is less likely.


Philip Roe    (2012-11-28 10:08:59)
How do I stop the pop-up message boxes?

This happened to me (still does) using either IE or Firefox. I cant close the annoying tab, but I can just minimize it, which makes it invisible.


Philip Roe    (2012-01-04 00:02:21)
On rules & players who lost 300 pts

There are players (who I could name if asked) who are capable of strong play but who start many more games than they finish. Whatever the outcome, there is little satisfaction to playing them. The problem with trying to impose any penalty is to identify them without closely policing the sytem.

A possible solution might be that players who have recently lost many short games could be restricted in the number of new entries that they can make.


Thibault de Vassal    (2011-11-13 19:52:28)
List ordered by rating

Here is, but as usual the new ratings (january 2012) will be taken in account...

Erwin Thiering 2515
Michael Bergmann 2475
Xavier Pichelin 2454
Thibault de Vassal 2449
Herbert Kruse 2436
Pavel Háse 2332
Ljubomir Tsenkov 2314
Rubén Cómes 2300
Wayne Lowrance 2266
Dariusz Fraczek 2261
Ramil Germanes 2255
Miroslav Gazi 2255
Alexander Blinchevsky 2253
Michael Sharland 2251
Sergey Kokoryukin 2251
Andrey Razumikhin 2250
Valery Nemchenko 2245
Lubos Fric 2241
Kevin D. Plant 2237
Christoph Schroeder 2236
Viktor Shishkin 2234
Slobodan Ilic 2218
Dmitri Mamrukov 2211
Vitaly Rudenko 2203
Alvin Alcala 2203
Carlos Sánchez 2203
Garvin Gray 2200
Scott Nichols 2189
Peter Unger 2181
Martin Zeman 2181
Christian Koch 2167
Stephen Hamby 2163
John Schutte 2136
David Evans 2132
Nelson Bernal Varela 2130
Darren DiAlfonso 2123
Ardiantez Polkwitzauer 2123
Thomas Dineen 2118
Peter W. Anderson 2112
Steve Lim 2110
Yu Ming Hoe 2100
Arkadiusz Wosch 2093
Djordje Kasabasic 2093
Luis Flores 2084
Daniel Parmet 2083
Lalit Kapoor 2080
Erik L. van Dijk 2074
Bernd Wolf 2072
Jose Lopez 2071
Sergey Uzdin 2064
Rodolfo d Ettorre 2064
Janos Helmer 2063
Om Prakash 2053
Mykola Simashkevitch 2043
Alexis Duenas 2037
Ireneusz Kasznia 2036
Mihail Larsky 2028
Joop Simmelink 2026
Pan Hardfeldt 2020
Henri Muller 2000
Jaroslav senior Pech 2000
Jaroslaw Gibas 2000
Bogoljub Teverovski 1997
Willy De Waele 1996
Fernando Vasquez 1992
Jose Moreira 1979
Andrew Endean 1975
Henri-Louis Muller 1972
Jose Maria Velasco 1972
Jordi Domingo 1969
Janeen Walden 1958
Andy Richard 1956
Roberto Migliorini 1949
Erika van Dijk 1943
Daniel Reboredo 1938
Coco Maceda 1938
Michael Rogers 1933
Aleksandr Aksenov 1927
Mariusz Maciej Broniek 1923
Robert Wilhelm 1901
Kieran Moore 1900
John Dyson 1889
Catalin Nita 1888
Daniel Jabot 1878
Johanes Suhardjo 1875
Mikhail Ruzin 1871
Benjamin Block 1863
Ilmar Ambos 1859
Vyacheslav Shchelykalin 1859
Jan Peter Lommler 1844
Stanislas Gounant 1840
Mircea Hrubaru 1838
Sasha Lipsits 1833
Nilson Pereira 1833
Aleksey Payzansky 1804
Jai Prakash Singh 1800
Fredi Brumec 1800
Gleen Duran 1800
Josef Strohmeier 1800
Ryszard Sternik 1776
Stepan Pech 1767
Dieter Faust 1764
Dmitriy Malish 1760
Dimitrios Ropokis 1743
Hasan Kirali 1715
Eddit Moreul 1700
Behzad Shahmiri 1700
Jaimie Wilson 1684
Dinesh Bhandarkar 1682
Philip Roe 1667
Olli Ylönen 1660
Graham Cridland 1655
Juan Alvar 1653
Jeremy Banta 1644
Luís Gonzaga Grego 1643
Pablo Siciliano 1623
Mariusz Jandula 1600
Sergey Biryukov 1598
Alejandro Canovas 1589
Jimmy Huggins 1577
Matthew O Brien 1575
Pablo Ruano 1565
Khaled Toutaoui 1528
Stanimir Denchev 1505
Leo Malagar 1500
Richard Hendricks 1479
Eric Price 1469
Antonio Pereira 1456
Angelo Piantadosi 1420
Simon Huxtable 1388
Peter Krakovsky 1326
Marc-Antoine Leurette 1243
Jorge Orden 1204
Hana Pechova 1204
Jorma Häkkinen 1192
Des Jefferis 1186
Deon Whittaker 1111
Matej Pech 1074
Jiri Mach 1022
Cédric Cavaillé 1003
Jay Melquiades 0909
Jaroslav Pech 0697


Philip Roe    (2011-09-20 19:11:01)
Phantom ficgs

Hi Thibault,

Thanks for trying to think about this.

I was just about to post that it had disappeared as mysteriously as it arrived, but as I was typing it came back!!

It must be something odd that only happens to me. Perhaps a side effect of some automatic upgrade. Who knows??


Philip Roe    (2011-09-19 21:44:13)
Phantom ficgs

Hi Thibault,

This happens on an HP Pavilion laptop, when I connect using either IE or Firefox.

There is no apparent pattern to the messages. Just now I got a line from Wikichess, a tornament start announcement, a note from you, part of a thread on Game 58473, advice that a player has just logged on. They seem to be things that have recently appeared above the chat bar.


Philip Roe    (2011-09-18 05:19:36)
Phantom ficgs

When I am in the ficgs site, a second tab opens spontaneously in the ficgs format, and bearing some random message from the real site. The message scrolls across the page from right to left. I kill this tab and it returns after about a minute. It carries a label in the tab box "Message box 1"

Does this happen to anyone else? how do you get rid of it?


Philip Roe    (2011-04-30 01:34:38)
Amateur player beats Rybka 4 !?

The description of the play is not precise, but for sure what this guy did was to pull some version of the old trick of pitting Rybka White versus Rybka Black (Oh look, I can beat TWO computers!)


Philip Roe    (2010-12-16 03:31:35)
Chess positions too complex for engines

This ending is taken from Nunn's Chess Endings (Om. Garcia-Otero,Cuba 2002).
ChessPosition (see diagram)

White, to play, can force a Queen and Pawns ending that would be a long slow win, but he can also make a very profound triangulation that leads much more forcefully to the win. Nunn was very impressed that White found this at the board.

I would be interested to know how the engines do on this position.


Philip Roe    (2010-10-05 17:20:42)
WCH Stage 1 groups (new players)

I think that the management of the WCH should not be too heavily weighted toward ensuring that "the best player" wins. On behalf of the underdogs, I would like us to have at least a sporting chance. If the cards are too much stacked against us the idea of an "open" tournament is lost, and we won't enter.

I looked at the statistics for cycle 000007. The top seed won outright 7 times, and tied for first on 7 other occasions. The second seed won outright twice, and tied first 7 times. The third seed won 5 times and tied twice. The fourth seed won once and tied twice. Out of all the winners, only the the two fourth seeds who tied had provisional 1800 ratings.

Are these numbers really a cause for concern?


Philip Roe    (2010-09-01 04:27:05)
Latest deletions of chat

If I'm right, chat messages are deleted by clicking on the triangle to the left. I have no idea whether this is some kind of standard practice, but I must admit that once (long ago) I wondered "What happens if I click on this? Oh dear, I seem to have deleted it" I feel sure that others must have done the same.

So, Thibault, you have to work around the ignorance of people like me.


Philip Roe    (2010-08-16 08:45:30)
Quote festival, part 6

Not to mention John Milton. See posts above.


Philip Roe    (2010-08-16 00:55:23)
Tournament entry conditions

Thibault,

Is it reasonable for someone to enter a new tournament when they have twenty four existing games and have not played a single move in any one of them?

This situation makes me hesitate to enter either B 00120 or Rapid B 00158.


Philip Roe    (2010-06-23 18:18:11)





Philip Roe    (2010-06-11 17:37:29)
Analysis board in Chess 960

Thibault,

I notice that when playing Chess 960 the analysis board does not come up. Is there a reason for that?


Philip Roe    (2010-05-12 01:07:56)
A suggestion

Don, Somone who is not as nice as you might move against players who are not present, so as to put extra time on their clock.


Philip Roe    (2010-03-12 15:45:54)
Tournament Leaders

But 1/1 is not better than 4.5/5


Philip Roe    (2010-02-22 16:39:32)
Rating calculation

The link is not totally clear, but the way I read it, your performance is based on your opponents TERs. This is then used to modify your current rating. Am I right?


Philip Roe    (2010-01-08 05:09:47)
Marc Lacrosse memorial

Thank you, Rodolfo!

Marc did indeed put enormous effort into this labor of love. I do wonder what his plans were.

I see that there are a lot of ICC games which were presumably speed games of some sort, and perhaps need to be taken with a grain of salt. Anyhow, it doesn't seem that I have made any blunders yet.


Philip Roe    (2009-12-16 18:44:59)
possibilities

I dont know much about Go, but I do know that you cannot cover a region of the plane with pentagonal tiles.

If a polygon has n sides, each angle is 180-360/n degrees, and this must be a factor of 360 if some number of these polygons can meet in a point. The only possibilties are six triangles, four squares or three hexagons.

Other, irregular shapes can be combined to tile without gaps. They would be even more of a headache!


Philip Roe    (2009-12-10 04:14:35)
Rodolfo

So although you say that you downloaded Marcs notes some time ago, you may have the latest version in existence. Perhaps you could forward it to Thibault and he can create a space for it.

It looks as if Marc put substantial effort into collecting it, and did intend some form of publication.


Philip Roe    (2009-12-09 21:59:40)
Wiiliam

Using that trick I can get either to the chessbazaar homepage or to the Basman-Sale index. After that I get stuck because none of the links seem to go anywhere. Im not a very sophisticated web searcher!


Philip Roe    (2009-12-09 04:14:10)
William

I already tried that and got the response "The page you are looking for could not be found" Do you know something that gets past that?


Philip Roe    (2009-12-08 05:21:27)
Marcs notes

Thibault,

Presumably if these notes do come to light you will put them where all of the participants in Thematic 100 (and any subsequent sections) can see them.

Perhaps if they form the basis for a monograph, somebody might be prepared to edit it.


Philip Roe    (2009-11-30 04:11:28)
Further Clarification

For further clarification on the catling rules, see Tim Krabbe's contribution in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke_chess_problem


Philip Roe    (2009-11-29 21:47:19)
Korchnoi and Castling

I read an account by Korchnoi himself (although I dont recall where) that it was a real uncertainty. He said that in all his career he had never encountered the situation.


Philip Roe    (2009-11-06 08:46:48)
Milton Scholarship

Nick,

So you've dug deeper than I have.

Fascinating. I would certainly like to see it in context.

Phil


Philip Roe    (2009-11-06 03:54:51)
Luck is the residue of design

Nick, I did not know that one. It is quite splendid and I thank you for it.

But it may not be Milton. I tried to look it up and quotation sites attribute it to a poem of his called "At a Vacation Exercise in the College" However, it does not occur there, and the Yale book of quotation credits someone called Branch Rickey in Sporting News, Feb 21 1946. A rather different source.

See http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/quotes-uncovered-who-worried-about-events/


Philip Roe    (2009-11-03 18:15:59)
Only after the finish

Suppose A is the strongest player in a WCH qualifier, and B is his nearest rival. A could use the thread to give advice to B's opponents.


Philip Roe    (2009-06-04 17:35:08)
Hypothetical case

Suppose that my opponent has a tricky move coming up, but I know that I can defend against it. Because I assume that they have seen both the move and the defense , I offer a draw.

They play the move anyway, thinking that I might not find the defense. But I defend correctly and offer the draw again.

Nothing evil has happened, but this sequence of events would be forbidden by some proposals. It seems to be an over-reaction to make elaborate rule changes in response to an isolated incident.


Philip Roe    (2009-05-01 04:49:32)
We should all be so lucky..

to have readers who read what we mean and not what we write!


Philip Roe    (2009-04-28 19:50:26)
Thanks for the appreciation, Normajean

I hadn't seen Sophies post. Do you have a line, Sophie? The knight looks awfully slow! Perhaps Big Chess needs Big Knights.


Philip Roe    (2009-04-27 20:32:11)
Nine half-moves

1. e2-e4 m15-m13 2. Bf1-a6 Bl16-n14 3. Nj2-h4 j14-j13 4. Qh1-k3 helps 5. Qk3xk13 mate

with many minor variations.


Philip Roe    (2009-04-05 08:21:08)
Will the games be viewable?

I see that the first unrated tournament has begun, but it doesnt seem to possible to view the games (There is no entry under "Tournaments"). Since the players have expressed an interest in trying opening experiments, it might be interesting to watch their adventures.


Philip Roe    (2009-03-06 14:06:34)
Thanks for the check, not for the clock

Thibault,

The notification check on the My Games title is a typically thoughtful touch. Thank you.

However, the clock just adds clutter unless you have a use for it. Can this enhancement be made an optional preference?

Also, since I am not interested in accepting challenges, is there a way to prevent challenges from being issued?


Philip Roe    (2009-02-20 14:36:04)
Complexity of Go

Don, I think the extra complexity may be more than your calculation shows.

On a Go board with 39 extra points, I think you are assuming that each extra point could be occupied by either a white stone or a black stone, giving 2 to the power 39 extra possibilities. Actually, since the extra stones need to be equally of each color, the possibilities are not quite so great. (about 2 to the power 36)

Anyway, what that calculation gives is the number of additional POSITIONS, but in calculating the number of additional GAMES the order of playing the stones must matter. On a board with n points, the number of possible games seems to be just factorial(n). In that case, going from a 19 x 19 board to a 20 x 20 board increases the number of possible games by a factor factorial(400)/factorial(361), which my computer gives as about 2 to the power 334.

I don't know enough about Go to judge how significant these numbers are, and surely various heuristics will cut them down a lot. But I thought that this observation might be worth making.


Philip Roe    (2009-02-16 16:05:24)
Nice one..

..Svante Carl!


Scott Nichols    (2009-02-09 04:05:25)
Give Philip Roe a cigar!

That is it. St. Petersburg 1918.


Philip Roe    (2009-02-08 22:43:43)
Capablanca?

Is that Capa on deciding to accept the challenge of the Marshall gambit?


Philip Roe    (2009-01-14 05:00:51)
Tom, if you are still with us..

Not everyone here uses engines, even in events where it would be allowed. As proof, some of us occasionally play moves that would disgrace a cell phone (and have long ago learned not to aspire to high honours).

However, the site has many nice features, and the absence of rules, "bizarre" as it may seem at first, does mean that whatever is going on is not actually cheating.


Philip Roe    (2008-12-11 15:32:43)
Interesting for sure..

Impressive, not so much.

He seems to make a big distinction between conscious and unconscious thought with no real justification. The fact that electrical activity can be detected prior to awareness does not tell us much. Daniel Dennett's "Consciousness Explained" is the most satisfactory account that I have read, and his "multiple drafts" theory is not unlike Runes, except that it allows for a more sophisticated interaction. Roughly, the conscious mind sets goals "I want to attack on the k-side" and the subconscious suggests means "How about Qh5" which the conscious rejects or selects for further review by setting a new goal " Lets see if Qh5 works". By ignoring this interplay Rune creates difficulties from which he cannot extricate himself. And Dennett also asks himself much tougher questions like "why is there consciousness at all? What evolutionary purpose could it serve?"

Interestingly, the subconscious seldom suggests really silly ideas, like Qh5 if there is a pawn on g6 and nothing else going on. Indeed, the filtering out of "non-candidates" can be quite impressive. I recall a moment from the BBC TV series The Master Game. Bill Hartston, an IM and a psychologist, was momentarily taken aback by an unexpected move made by his (weaker) opponent. "Why didn't I see that?" A few seconds later "Oh, that's why I didn't see it!" (the move involved an unsound combination) Hartston was about to coauthor a book on chess psychology with John Wason, and his remark was not entirely in jest.

Hartston was suggesting, by his remarks, that he could usually trust his unconscious not to show him anything irrelevant. That, to my mind, is one of the things that characterizes a strong player. The irrelevant moves just don't occur to them.

So then what about blunders? Well, the system is very fallible. It IS just made of meat, and the real surprise is that blunders do not occur more often. But the blunders made by strong players seem different from the blunders made by rabbits. They are usually relevant to something, but they have a hole in them. I dont see anything at all about Runes proposals that would eliminate blunders, except through the indirect route of making you a stronger player.


Philip Roe    (2008-12-11 14:08:02)
Seems it can go either way..

I have played chess with a world champion poker player. He is an above-average chessplayer, but just a US master.


Normajean Yates    (2008-10-31 23:07:40)
small correction + apology to philip..

When I mistakenly said Philip Roe's 7x7 chess -- I meant just what Philip meant - i.e. some variant (10x10?) with two of those pices which can move only to those squares of the 7x7 patch they are at the centre of where it couldn't move were it a 'normal' chess piece. Sorry for the mistake.. and for the correct but perhaps obfuscating expression of the concept in *this* post ... [I took Roe's clear prose and ran an obfuscator on it ;)]


Normajean Yates    (2008-10-31 22:52:08)
I love [16x16] bigchess! :)

But disclosure of bias: I am winning my first bigchess (16x16) tournament 6-0 I think ;)

[4-0 I have already, One opp is timing out, and the only remaining opp: well see game 23201... ]

Let me be clear, 16x16 is very nice, need 'far' sight in two senses of the word :), and I would still love it - even if I was losing!

If some genie gave me the option that 'okay, from tomorrow at ficgs there will be no bigchess but there will be 5x5 and 10x10 and Philip Roe's generalisation to 7x7 with a nice initial position worked out -

I'd say no! I want bigchess!


Philip Roe    (2008-10-31 13:24:41)
Chess extensions

There seem to be many ways to extend chess. Most proposals, like yours Normajean, combine the powers of existing pieces. There may be other ways.

I saw it pointed out somewhere that if you put a piece somewhere near the middle of the board, at the center of a 5x5 patch of squares ,the N can go to any square in the patch not covered by a R or B. It was suggested that this might have been the reasoning of the original inventor. This makes even more sense if you consider that under medieval rules the K+Q covered a 3x3 patch.

Along these lines, consider a 7x7 patch and let the new piece go to any square not covered by an existing piece. Such a piece might be interesting. It would cover up to 16 pieces and be a formidable long-range weapon, but perhaps rather helpless at close quarters.

In designing an initial position, I would want to take into account the possibility of early interactions. In regular chess the placing makes such possibilities as the pinning of Nc3 by Bb4 possible. Proponents of FischerRandom call this kind of thing hackneyed, but I find most FR positions sterile because the game has no initial shape.


Philip Roe    (2008-08-11 16:25:09)
Pie in the Sky

Getting free annotations from a strong player seems a bit much to expect.

If you belong to the Internet Chess Club, and type help Services, you get a list of people willing to teach lessons or annotate games. They all charge by the hour, depending on their strength and economic situation. An IM from a third world country charges about $20 per hour. I doubt that you can do better.


Normajean Yates    (2008-07-27 20:28:23)
adding to Philip Roe 's post...

It is funny that high-school algebraic geometry is more often called analytic geometry; while in algebraic geometry, 'analytic geometry' is the branch that deals with power series in general rather than polynomials ... so what in analytic (power-series) geometry corresponds to Bezout's theorem? (I have no idea...)


Philip Roe    (2008-07-27 03:39:07)
Notation

There is a history of chess notation at

http://www.excaliburelectronics.com/history0799.html
crediting algebraic notation to Philip Stamma in 1737 and stating that "by the 19th century Stamma's simple system had become the norm in some European countries".

So if Breyer did make the remark attributed to him it would probably have read something like "after Nf3..." bur with N replaced by the symbol for Knight in whatever language he was using.

Descartes of course, invented algebraic geometry, in which a straight line is represented by

ax+by=c

and so on.


Philip Roe    (2008-07-23 20:42:20)
poems against humanity

Normajean,

I cant recall the ending either, but in a similar vein,

My fellow man I do not care for
I often ask me whats he there for
The only answer I can find
Is reproduction of his kind.


Philip Roe    (2008-02-15 18:48:06)
Current WC

Sorry, Iouri, but you are wrong.

But even if you were correct, your comment would be wrong (IMO of course)


Philip Roe    (2008-02-09 21:28:14)
Simple fix

Or, as I realised about ten seconds after posting, I can just maximise the analysis window to hide the ads...


Philip Roe    (2008-02-09 18:01:20)
Moving advertisements

Thibault,

I understand your need to generate revenue, and I may be the only one to feel this way, but I find it very irritating to have advertisements displayed that employ dynamic graphics.

They are, of course, designed to be eyecatching, and I find that they make it almost impossible to focus on the analysis board, which was a very welcome recent innovation.


Philip Roe    (2008-01-18 23:09:34)
congratulations

to Gaetano for what is surely our only 2-0 score


Philip Roe    (2008-01-17 03:05:06)
Excellent enhancements

Thibault,

Many thanks for the work you put into this!

I have one minor complaint. I think it is very unlikely that I will ever want to respond to any of the displayed challenges, so for me that is just clutter. Is there way to opt out of having this feature displayed?


Philip Roe    (2008-01-11 20:49:15)
game search

At present the "search games" facility allows to search by player's name or by opening. It might be convenient also to be able to search by game number. For example when a particular game is mentioned in the forum by number.


Philip Roe    (2007-12-02 01:01:39)
I think this is original

Chess, like love, like music, has the power to make men miserable.


Philip Roe    (2007-11-11 19:16:42)
cui bono?

Thibault,

I'm not at all clear what your proposal is intended to achieve.

Are you trying to save us from ourselves? Ruined careers, failed marriages, social withdrawal, vitamin deficiency...? If so I can't imagine a one-size-fits-all solution.

Or are you protecting other players from the phenomenon of a player who takes on a large number of games and then, for whatever reason, forfeits many of them? This seems to happen regrettably often and for that purpose it seems perfectly reasonable to ask people to qualify before managing a large number of games. Can you pull any statistics that might be revealing?


Philip Roe    (2007-10-18 00:40:41)
Feynman on Go

In a 1985 lecture, Nobel laureate Richard Feynman said that creating an expert program for Go would be a scientific project of very high importance. His reason was that he did not believe that it could done by brute force, and that it would therefore compel researchers to grapple with the problem of just how human beings manage to do what they do with seemingly meager processing power.

Of course brute force has come a long way in 20 years, but my impression is that virtually no progress has been made of the kind that Feynman hoped to see. Does anyone know otherwise?


Philip Roe    (2007-10-15 16:56:55)
Chess 960 masterpieces

Have there been any games of chess 960 played, of a quality that would justify them being included in an anthology of great games? If so, I would like to see some.


Philip Roe    (2007-09-14 17:53:56)
Andrew Stephenson

Thanks for your explanations. They were helpful. Let me try to say what I meant by unsynchronised rating systems (maybe I could have found a better word)

The difference between your rating and mine is a measure of how likely you are to beat me, and that relationship between rating difference and percentage score is similar for any system I have come across.

However, the absolute numbers mean little if anything. There was a widespead belief for some time that US players were overrated, even though the system worked fine internally. My understanding is that from time to time organisations check to see if they have drifted too far from FIDE standards.

This sort of calibration works fine for human OTB games, but for anything else it is not easy to see how to "set the zero", and that possible mismatch is what I called "unsynchronised".

I think that standard CC practice is to try to give each player a rating similar to their OTB rating. I do not know how the engine ratings quoted were tied down, and I imagine that centaur ratings are very difficult to calibrate.




Philip Roe    (2007-09-13 00:37:23)
Andrew Stephenson

You post makes a lot of sense, and I can absolutely agree that being a centaur can be fun and educational (Centaurs in Greek mythology, by the way, were a highly respected race, and usually described as happy) However, I am puzzled by something which maybe you or someone else can explain.

You and others assert that playing the engines first choice every time will drop points against an intelligent centaur. Does it not follow that a centaur should have a higher rating than its engine? But in fact the ratings quoted for the top engines are substantially higher than the ratings of anyone on FICGS, which seems a paradox.

Does the explanation lie in unsynchronized rating systems, or am I just missing something? This question has nothing to do with value judgements, merely with satisfying a curiosity.


Philip Roe    (2007-09-11 03:59:50)
Netiquette

Thibault,

Your proposal is good. You should not have to make decisions about who "started" an altercation, because sometimes it will be a close call. The only way to avoid making the close calls is to decline to make any calls.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-06 20:56:31)
Philip Roe

You're joking here right? I made a benign and topical post trying to explain things for some people. I attacked or provoked NOBODY. You started in on me with this "for you happy centaur" remark that was completely uncalled for and unsolicited.

I can't seem to win with the forum here. Even when I make an innocent post I get insulted and harassed. Then when I defend myself the Admin sides against me like clockwork, lol.


Philip Roe    (2007-09-06 13:55:03)
Jason

[moderator : is it worth to respond and add to the provocation ? :)]


Philip Roe    (2007-09-05 23:13:44)
CC without engines

Well, you learn something new every day.

About paragraphing anyway!

Garvin, dont give it a second thought. Christophe and myself have both said that we accept your use of engines: we signed up for it.

Jason, I'm sure I speak for Christophe in saying that neither of wants to change anything for you happy centaurs. All we said was that IF enough other people felt the same way, THEN maybe Thibault might add that feature to his excellent site.

The parallel thread on tablebases is interesting. I find myself taking the opposite view. I dont see them as being very different from looking up KBNk in a textbook. They dont take fun out of the game because most of those rare positions are so impenetrable that they are not much fun anyway.

So I am not very consistent in my views. Who was it said that consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds?


Philip Roe    (2007-09-03 18:59:27)
CC without engines

Thibault, Christophe, All I did was to pass on that ICC CLAIMS to be able detect computer use. They dont say how they do it. Maybe they are just bluffing, or maybe they have an algorithm that kind of works and they dont want people to work around it by knowing how it works. The reason I dont use engines is because I want to take full credit for any wins I get. I can imagine using an engine and telling myself that I will just use it to prevent oversights. But I cant control what the engine will tell me. It might recommend a move that tells me that I am planning to attack the wrong target. If I then switch plans and win, what is left for me to feel proud of? But I can understand that others may feel differently, and there is much to be said for a site where everything is allowed because it gets around the issue of making a rule that is certainly very hard to enforce. But just because that rule does not exist on FICGS, it seems to me that if somebody on FICGS says that they are not using an engine, then you can probably believe them. The problem with other sites is that if a player with an umimpressive rating fires back a series of accurate moves very quickly in a difficult situation then you suspect that he is using an engine (although he promised not to) and there is not much you can do about it. If the same thing happens on FICGS you are pretty sure that he is using an engine, but you have already agreed that he can, so it doesnt irritate you. For that reason, I think that a computers-barred tournament might actually make sense on FICGS because those who want to use engines can legitimately do so. But for me, it would need to be chess that means something, with at least rating points at stake. Interestingly, Christophe and I are drawn in the same tournament, so we can declare at least that one game computer-free!


Philip Roe    (2007-09-01 22:01:21)
quotes

As the days dwindle down.. to a precious few...(Maxwell Anderson, September Song.. or any CC-player)


Philip Roe    (2007-09-01 20:04:25)
engine-free chess

When I started playing here about three months ago I did not realise that engine use was allowed (or even encouraged, according to some) What did attract me were some features like being able to see ongoing games of other players, which makes the experience more like a "real" OTB event. I have played on other sites (IECG,ICC) where engines are forbidden, and ICC at least claims to have software that detects cheating. I play without an engine (but using books)simply because I enjoy it more. I dont care all that much what you do as long as you play interesting moves. It seems very clear from the games that lower-rated players certainly dont use engines and higher-rated players probably have to. At my kind of level (1900ish) it seems optional, but the suspicion that my opponent analyses with an engine steers me away from certain types of position (speculative sacs, or clear strategy but complex tactics) which is a shame because that may be where the position wants to go. The previous thread got very heated, and Im not sure why. One suggestion was to let non-computer users go away and play funny little unrated games by themselves. That is not attractive. Im not interested in playing walkover games against weak opponents. Rating is essential. Other than that, Im very interested to find out what other people think. That will determine whether or not I come to feel at home here.


Philip Roe    (2007-09-01 04:24:39)
private/public messages

I too would like to send private messages, perhaps to congratulate the winner of my tourney. Also, can one add public comments to a game that is finished? Either ones own game or someone elses?


Philip Roe    (2007-08-28 22:52:27)
Quotes

Work expands to fill the time available (C. Northcote Parkinson, in Parkinsons Laws)


Philip Roe    (2007-08-23 17:31:35)
draws and wins

Those statistics might have some curiosity value but perhaps not much deep meaning. Especially in the lower sections, all of the games defaulted in ten moves or fewer give a false impression of decisive play. Even if they are excluded, I feel sure that the proportion of draws is much higher for stronger players, so I dont know what an average percentage would tell us.


Philip Roe    (2007-08-21 00:19:50)
Best game voting

It is a nice new feature to be able to see all the board positions in a tournament. This inspired me to look through the "20 best games". On average a mediocre bunch! Perhaps the problem is the link "vote for best game" You look at this and wonder "What happens if I click on this?" and then discover that you have voted for the game you happened to be examining. I suggest a less ambiguous wording "Endorse this game as a best game candidate"




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